Donna's Den

This is where I let my freak/geek flag fly. My art, sketches and doodles scattered among TONS of reblogs. Occasional rant warning, sometimes NSFW. Enjoy XD
chazzthejazz:
donnaanna:

Curse you Pleasure Dome! I was completely incapable of walking past these, thanks to seeing all the gorgeous heels you guys have been posting here. <333

So glad you didn’t!
;)

My new shoes <333333

chazzthejazz:

donnaanna:

Curse you Pleasure Dome! I was completely incapable of walking past these, thanks to seeing all the gorgeous heels you guys have been posting here. <333

So glad you didn’t!

;)

My new shoes <333333

chazzthejazz:

When Pleasure Dames Attack!!!
If you watched today’s video to the end, you may have seen a glimpse of this already ^^ Hey, it’s time the Pleasure Dames did something nice for Chuckie &lt;333 (hint: TICKLE)
This preview is a SSFW (Sorta Safe For Work) version of a larger cartoon, which is Not Safe For Work At All. Clicking the image will take you to the the post containing the full image (and the possibility to zoom in + check it out on deviantArt ;))

Casually reblogging the slightly censored version ^^ 

chazzthejazz:

When Pleasure Dames Attack!!!

If you watched today’s video to the end, you may have seen a glimpse of this already ^^ Hey, it’s time the Pleasure Dames did something nice for Chuckie <333 (hint: TICKLE)

This preview is a SSFW (Sorta Safe For Work) version of a larger cartoon, which is Not Safe For Work At All. Clicking the image will take you to the the post containing the full image (and the possibility to zoom in + check it out on deviantArt ;))

Casually reblogging the slightly censored version ^^ 

chazzthejazz:

This just happened… &lt;3

asdhkajfsdas and I already have the weirdest ladyboner for the guy. STOPPIT.

chazzthejazz:

This just happened… <3

asdhkajfsdas and I already have the weirdest ladyboner for the guy. STOPPIT.

bleutinne:

masseffect-multiplayer-things:

I hear this all the time I play with the Widow. Sometimes I leave a lobby or I’m kicked. But those that accept it because they need an infiltrator/medic are crying when I’m the last one standing mowing down targets on gold.

oh god i was wondering why i was kicked today
people are so fucking rude |:
they didn’t even play with me! i understand if i’m a horrible sniper but on the contrary i’m actually quite goddamn good and an accuracy freak, and i love trying to see how many 20 headshot achievements i can get in a row without breaking the pattern. 
so seriously. kick me after i’ve proved to you that i suck consistently, but before that what you’re doing is just plain rude &lt;3

I&#8217;ve only started learning sniping in the past couple of weeks, and most of the time I&#8217;m HORRIBLE XD It depends though, sometimes it works better than others. Once I actually was #2 and with several medals - Once a team member emptied his SMG magazine at me during the break because I just missed all the time XD I just shot back and went on learning. 

Seriously it&#8217;s not so serious. I&#8217;m a natural vanguard and I&#8217;m usually very good with the close up melee stuff with gigantic shotguns, but to stop and aim is more of a challenge for me. I still want to learn because you know change is refreshing. XD 

bleutinne:

masseffect-multiplayer-things:

I hear this all the time I play with the Widow. Sometimes I leave a lobby or I’m kicked. But those that accept it because they need an infiltrator/medic are crying when I’m the last one standing mowing down targets on gold.

oh god i was wondering why i was kicked today

people are so fucking rude |:

they didn’t even play with me! i understand if i’m a horrible sniper but on the contrary i’m actually quite goddamn good and an accuracy freak, and i love trying to see how many 20 headshot achievements i can get in a row without breaking the pattern. 

so seriously. kick me after i’ve proved to you that i suck consistently, but before that what you’re doing is just plain rude <3

I’ve only started learning sniping in the past couple of weeks, and most of the time I’m HORRIBLE XD It depends though, sometimes it works better than others. Once I actually was #2 and with several medals - Once a team member emptied his SMG magazine at me during the break because I just missed all the time XD I just shot back and went on learning. 

Seriously it’s not so serious. I’m a natural vanguard and I’m usually very good with the close up melee stuff with gigantic shotguns, but to stop and aim is more of a challenge for me. I still want to learn because you know change is refreshing. XD 

(via bleu-meridia)

gala-storm-blade:

bleutinne:

heysawbones:

rynnay:

jasjuliet:

nachotypicalbromance:

colonelstarstorm:

gingerhaole:

shuraiya:

Actually, that can be explained with ~SCIENCE~
The sketchiness of line art mimics the natural lack of clarity in our peripheral vision. When we look at the real world, our high definition fovea can only focus on a small area at a time. By having a very clean line art, it creates the unnatural feel of high clarity over a large area that’s not possible when we look at real life, therefore line art tends to appear stiff and not as appealing as the sketch. This sketichiness technique was first utilized by impressionists to create an optical illusion of motion (along with other techniques like equiluminance).
Source: Vision and Art: The Biology of Seeing by Margaret Livingston
Reblogging for an interesting bit of SCIENCE.

Fuck me, I KNEW there was a reason! FUCK YOU, SCIENCE, YOU ASSHOLE

EVERYTHING CAN BE EXPLAINED WITH SCIENCE

SCIENCE! WHAT CAN’T IT DO!



This proves it,
I shouldn’t ink anything. Science bids it.

Only useful Art Student Owl.

GIRLS, LOOK. LOOK. FINALLY. IT’S EXPLAINED. XD

I reject your science… and keep inking &gt;.&lt; I love pretty line art, one day mine will be pretty too! No Owl can stop me.

I don&#8217;t think it should mean that we should stop linearting. I&#8217;m not going to stop for sure :D But it&#8217;s an interesting bit of theory to know, and it does confirm some of my thoughts about what direction I want to take my lineart - a softer brush, less rigid lines altogether, perhaps more pressure variation. There are some people who can make amazingly lively lineart, so there&#8217;s no need to be discouraged :) 
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gala-storm-blade:

bleutinne:

heysawbones:

rynnay:

jasjuliet:

nachotypicalbromance:

colonelstarstorm:

gingerhaole:

shuraiya:

Actually, that can be explained with ~SCIENCE~

The sketchiness of line art mimics the natural lack of clarity in our peripheral vision. When we look at the real world, our high definition fovea can only focus on a small area at a time. By having a very clean line art, it creates the unnatural feel of high clarity over a large area that’s not possible when we look at real life, therefore line art tends to appear stiff and not as appealing as the sketch. This sketichiness technique was first utilized by impressionists to create an optical illusion of motion (along with other techniques like equiluminance).

Source: Vision and Art: The Biology of Seeing by Margaret Livingston

Reblogging for an interesting bit of SCIENCE.

Fuck me, I KNEW there was a reason! FUCK YOU, SCIENCE, YOU ASSHOLE

EVERYTHING CAN BE EXPLAINED WITH SCIENCE

SCIENCE! WHAT CAN’T IT DO!

This proves it,

I shouldn’t ink anything. Science bids it.

Only useful Art Student Owl.

GIRLS, LOOK. LOOK. FINALLY. IT’S EXPLAINED. XD

I reject your science… and keep inking >.< I love pretty line art, one day mine will be pretty too! No Owl can stop me.

I don’t think it should mean that we should stop linearting. I’m not going to stop for sure :D But it’s an interesting bit of theory to know, and it does confirm some of my thoughts about what direction I want to take my lineart - a softer brush, less rigid lines altogether, perhaps more pressure variation. There are some people who can make amazingly lively lineart, so there’s no need to be discouraged :) 

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hey-its-tsai:

artist-confessions:

Art by Hyung Tae Kim.and I don’t mean to sound all white knight about my favorite artist but there is somewhat of a line between“this is wrong and unproportional &amp; distorted, and amateur you should work on your anatomy &amp; proportions a little more before trying to exaggerate the body.” and  ”THIS IS DISTORTED ANATOMY AND I WILL DISREGARD THAT THE PROPORTIONS ARE ACTUALLY PROPER BECAUSE OF THEIR OBVIOUSLY EXAGGERATED STYLE AND CURVE AND ALSO DISREGARD THAT YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL DESIGNERAND HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS AND PROBABLY KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING ENTIRELY BECAUSE IT’S OBVIOUSLY NOT LIKE REAL LIFE AT ALL.” 
Quoted from his website “The style used by Hyung-tae Kim for his artwork is called manhwa. Hyung-tae Kim basically draws his characters while disregarding the accuracy of the human anatomy, choosing to go after a certain feel for the character that he’s working on. He tends to exaggerate the female look and he promotes the masculinity. Usually his characters will be designed somewhere between the emphasis that the Western artists place on details and muscles and the minimal lines used by Japanese artists. He chooses to create a character that looks as appealing as possible, even though that might mean that they’re designed in a way that has little in common with the way a real human looks like. The curves on his characters feel right, but they don’t always have real world logic.”
submitted by -prince-of-irony

lol i can’t wait for the drama
“Professional artist” does not automatically mean “good artist.” (At least in my book; what’s that actual definition of a “good artist” anyway.) Everyone can make mistakes, and you never stop learning. The minute you think you’ve stopped learning is the minute you stagnate.
Using HTK’s work: Notice that the character designs he’s done for War of Genesis and compare it to the work from Magna Carta. And then compare that to the work from Magna Carta 2, an example of which you have helpfully provided us.
His WOG work is less refined than MC2; while [kinda] correct, some of his characters still have some bizarre anatomical problems that stick out like sore thumbs. There is a massive skill jump from that work to MC2, which is to be expected when there’s almost a decade of practice between them. This is all his professional work.
His characters look better proportionately and anatomically now, so by your logic his Actual Professional Work (WOG) has been exaggerated into something that looks more correct?
If that’s the case, I’m going to call myself professional right now so I can choose not to place myself in a realistic frame. Artistic genius awaits!
That doesn’t sound quite right.
Yeah, you don’t really sound completely like a white knight, but that excerpt from his website is classic LEAVE ME ALONE IT’S MY STYLE white-knighting. Designing a character for a game that doesn’t follow the “rules of what a human looks like” seems odd because it won’t look the same in-game unless you want all the characters to look uncanny valley creepy.
Don’t get me wrong; I like his work, even if I think his anatomy mistakes are stupid. I like Alien1452 better overall, though. ;)
tl;dr i agree but i don’t
idk what else to say so here are a bunch of cats drawn by an artist who began to suffer from schizophrenia over a long period of time


Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more :) Just throwing in my 2 cents:

The proportions don&#8217;t have to be realistic, but they still should be balanced, and in accordance with the style one is going for. Here the legs are as long as the whole upper body, which immediately ruins the balance for me. What disturbs me the most is that the lower abdomen ALONE is LONGER than the distance from her lowest ribs to the top of her head. Just imagine this girl naked and you&#8217;ll see. 
Even professionals make mistakes, and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that. But it&#8217;s not wrong to say something is not aesthetically pleasing because the proportions are wonky. Unnatural is not bad - unbalanced looks creepy and monstrous, especially when it clearly is not meant to be a character trait (a dwarf&#8217;s proportions are clearly different from that of an elf, say).
If the overall rendition of this was more stylised, like in the ways of Picasso or Dalí or just some drug-induced psychedelic vision, it might work. But in this style, some sort of balance in proportion is usually expected, and white-knighting someone who is a professional won&#8217;t help in the least. I&#8217;m glad if someone finds it aesthetically acceptable, but personally that makes me facepalm and freak out a bit. Unless, of course, that is the whole purpose of this drawing.

The whole point of learning the rules is to lean how to go beyond them without the whole thing appearing flawed. It most certainly does not mean that neat proportions are an amateur thing and all over the place anatomy means you&#8217;re a cool pro artist. There are some awesome exaggerated anatomies out there, but the sign of a good one is that it doesn&#8217;t look unbalanced to the viewer, and actually tricks you into thinkin it&#8217;s actually okay.

hey-its-tsai:

artist-confessions:

Art by Hyung Tae Kim.
and I don’t mean to sound all white knight about my favorite artist but there is somewhat of a line between
“this is wrong and unproportional & distorted, and amateur you should work on your anatomy & proportions a little more before trying to exaggerate the body.”
and 
 ”THIS IS DISTORTED ANATOMY AND I WILL DISREGARD THAT THE PROPORTIONS ARE ACTUALLY PROPER BECAUSE OF THEIR OBVIOUSLY EXAGGERATED STYLE AND CURVE AND ALSO DISREGARD THAT YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL DESIGNERAND HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS AND PROBABLY KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING ENTIRELY BECAUSE IT’S OBVIOUSLY NOT LIKE REAL LIFE AT ALL.” 

Quoted from his website “The style used by Hyung-tae Kim for his artwork is called manhwa. Hyung-tae Kim basically draws his characters while disregarding the accuracy of the human anatomy, choosing to go after a certain feel for the character that he’s working on. He tends to exaggerate the female look and he promotes the masculinity. Usually his characters will be designed somewhere between the emphasis that the Western artists place on details and muscles and the minimal lines used by Japanese artists. He chooses to create a character that looks as appealing as possible, even though that might mean that they’re designed in a way that has little in common with the way a real human looks like. The curves on his characters feel right, but they don’t always have real world logic.”

submitted by -prince-of-irony

lol i can’t wait for the drama

“Professional artist” does not automatically mean “good artist.” (At least in my book; what’s that actual definition of a “good artist” anyway.) Everyone can make mistakes, and you never stop learning. The minute you think you’ve stopped learning is the minute you stagnate.

Using HTK’s work: Notice that the character designs he’s done for War of Genesis and compare it to the work from Magna Carta. And then compare that to the work from Magna Carta 2, an example of which you have helpfully provided us.

His WOG work is less refined than MC2; while [kinda] correct, some of his characters still have some bizarre anatomical problems that stick out like sore thumbs. There is a massive skill jump from that work to MC2, which is to be expected when there’s almost a decade of practice between them. This is all his professional work.

His characters look better proportionately and anatomically now, so by your logic his Actual Professional Work (WOG) has been exaggerated into something that looks more correct?

If that’s the case, I’m going to call myself professional right now so I can choose not to place myself in a realistic frame. Artistic genius awaits!

That doesn’t sound quite right.

Yeah, you don’t really sound completely like a white knight, but that excerpt from his website is classic LEAVE ME ALONE IT’S MY STYLE white-knighting. Designing a character for a game that doesn’t follow the “rules of what a human looks like” seems odd because it won’t look the same in-game unless you want all the characters to look uncanny valley creepy.

Don’t get me wrong; I like his work, even if I think his anatomy mistakes are stupid. I like Alien1452 better overall, though. ;)

tl;dr i agree but i don’t

idk what else to say so here are a bunch of cats drawn by an artist who began to suffer from schizophrenia over a long period of time

Couldn’t agree with you more :) Just throwing in my 2 cents:

The proportions don’t have to be realistic, but they still should be balanced, and in accordance with the style one is going for. Here the legs are as long as the whole upper body, which immediately ruins the balance for me. What disturbs me the most is that the lower abdomen ALONE is LONGER than the distance from her lowest ribs to the top of her head. Just imagine this girl naked and you’ll see.

Even professionals make mistakes, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But it’s not wrong to say something is not aesthetically pleasing because the proportions are wonky. Unnatural is not bad - unbalanced looks creepy and monstrous, especially when it clearly is not meant to be a character trait (a dwarf’s proportions are clearly different from that of an elf, say).

If the overall rendition of this was more stylised, like in the ways of Picasso or Dalí or just some drug-induced psychedelic vision, it might work. But in this style, some sort of balance in proportion is usually expected, and white-knighting someone who is a professional won’t help in the least. I’m glad if someone finds it aesthetically acceptable, but personally that makes me facepalm and freak out a bit. Unless, of course, that is the whole purpose of this drawing.

The whole point of learning the rules is to lean how to go beyond them without the whole thing appearing flawed. It most certainly does not mean that neat proportions are an amateur thing and all over the place anatomy means you’re a cool pro artist. There are some awesome exaggerated anatomies out there, but the sign of a good one is that it doesn’t look unbalanced to the viewer, and actually tricks you into thinkin it’s actually okay.

hey-its-tsai:

donnaanna:

hey-its-tsai:

Have you actually told them that you want concrit from them?
I’m pretty sure they aren’t mind readers.

Before you read this, please read my disclaimer first.
I’ve faced similar complaints before. There are several options here. 1. Your friends really do think your stuff is nice, or cute. 2.They think it’s nice, and cute, but also think there is room for improvement but don’t want to say anything in fear of offending you. Or then there’s the third option, which is that they think it’s horrible but don’t want to offend you. We could debate what makes a better friend, the one who honestly in your face tells you your new neon pink-lemon yellow shirt looks horrible in spite of possibly offending you, or the one who wants to let you enjoy your new shirt you clearly like even though they personally don’t like the colours. But that’s not the case here, I think.
What the case is, in fact, is… Why do you want your friends to concrit you? This “It’s making me feel like my art and myself aren’t good enough for them anymore”… Just the sentiment expressed here rings alarm bells for me. I could be wrong, of course. But for me, it sounds like someone who “buys acceptance” through art (something I’ve done all through my life), and that the actual, honest criticism might destroy the balance of the relationship. I’ve seen that happen from both sides - I’ve also been the one throwing temper tantrums at concrit going “WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE”, but I’ve also been the one giving it, and seen friends, or people I thought were friends, distanced by it. It’s a two-edged sword, so be careful with it.
See… There’s this thing. Who are you making your art for? Yourself, or someone else? (I’m assuming this is an amateur artist, not a professional, so I’ll deal with the assumptions it’s amateur.) I’ve been trapped years and years in a circle of “buying acceptance” from people around me by providing services, making art, putting in ridiculous effort in things that aren’t all that important, because that seemed to be the only way to get positive feedback from people. If you want criticism, but in the meantime fear you’re not ‘good enough’ for your friends anymore, honest criticism might kill your friendship.
Criticism, especially the way it’s implied here, will contain a person’s opinion, and possibly even valid information they’ve gathered through learning their subject more, reading, lessons, tutorials, whatnot. Ideally, it should not only contain information of what’s wrong, but also of what’s good, and HOW TO IMPROVE. But most often, people don’t adhere to ideals. They might put some things bluntly, or point out flaws they have no idea how you should fix. Maybe they say something that they don’t even consider important, but that tears apart your confidence, because it’s something you worked on for ages and then they think it isn’t very good? They might even not be giving the concrit because they don’t know what to say to you! But if you ask for it, you MUST be ready for it. And if they’re real friends, and give you the honest concrit, you have to be the friend back AND NOT BE OFFENDED if they actually do point out some big things to improve.
By and large, if how you feel about not getting the criticism is ‘you’re not good enough for someone’, it sounds like you might want to try to get the criticism elsewhere. If there are already negative feels in that relationship, the actual honest concrit might shatter the whole thing. Maybe your friends will excercise their eye for excruciating detail and say things that offend you? Will you be able to accept it for friendly advise, or will it be more proof of that you’re not good enough? I’ve seen people asking for criticism, but when it’s given, they flip and accuse the critic of anything between showing off and trying to make them feel bad. Think carefully before asking a friend for criticism, you need to have a VERY close and trusting relationship before you can actually do that without letting it eat away at your friendship.
I could say a few words about friendship here too, but maybe not. It’s long enough as it is. XDAlso my brain is turning fuzzy so I hope I didn’t make a mess of it. X)

“ Ideally, it should not only contain information of what’s wrong, but also of what’s good, and HOW TO IMPROVE. But most often, people don’t adhere to ideals. They might put some things bluntly, or point out flaws they have no idea how you should fix.” (Emphasis mine)
This right here is one of my biggest pet peeves regarding concrit. People just slap together a paragraph of “this looks wrong but idk exactly what it is or how to fix it you’re on your own sorry :D” and then get haughty if the recipient complains about it.
Example: Years ago I got some crits about a drawing that were essentially, “Looks good but could use more work.” Um, thanks? What about it needs work? Did I do anything right? But I got a different crit from someone else that said, “Looks good but the wing should be larger here in order to achieve lift, etc.” (Paraphrasing, of course.) Yes, good.
It just bugs me. People get upset over concrit that isn’t even good concrit and they are roasted for it.
This is really off-topic, sorry. D:
tl;dr I agree with your dissertation. :&gt;

Well that&#8217;s the thing! It really bugs me that while some people waltz in giving &#8220;constructive criticism&#8221; IT&#8217;S NOT CONSTRUCTIVE if it contains no tips whatsoever on HOW TO IMPROVE, or at least point you in the right direction (&#8220;the hand looks a bit off, I&#8217;m sorry I don&#8217;t know what it is, but here&#8217;s a good tutorial&#8221;). It could, of course, be debated that if you are not asked for criticism, it might be a good idea to only say things you have something to say about. If you&#8217;re asked for criticism and see something funny but don&#8217;t know how to fix it, it&#8217;s okay to say so.
(And some people don&#8217;t even want to bother to give concrit and that&#8217;s more than okay. If you do, however, there are a lot of ways to make it more efficient and less like egoboosting, because that&#8217;s what it appears like if you don&#8217;t elaborate what you mean.)
&#8220;It could use some more work&#8221; is a phrase someone uses to appear more professional than the person they&#8217;re critiqueing, but in fact it just makes them look like idiots. And the best way to deal with such feedback is acid-dripping sarcasm. XD

hey-its-tsai:

donnaanna:

hey-its-tsai:

Have you actually told them that you want concrit from them?

I’m pretty sure they aren’t mind readers.

Before you read this, please read my disclaimer first.

I’ve faced similar complaints before. There are several options here. 1. Your friends really do think your stuff is nice, or cute. 2.They think it’s nice, and cute, but also think there is room for improvement but don’t want to say anything in fear of offending you. Or then there’s the third option, which is that they think it’s horrible but don’t want to offend you. We could debate what makes a better friend, the one who honestly in your face tells you your new neon pink-lemon yellow shirt looks horrible in spite of possibly offending you, or the one who wants to let you enjoy your new shirt you clearly like even though they personally don’t like the colours. But that’s not the case here, I think.

What the case is, in fact, is… Why do you want your friends to concrit you? This “It’s making me feel like my art and myself aren’t good enough for them anymore”… Just the sentiment expressed here rings alarm bells for me. I could be wrong, of course. But for me, it sounds like someone who “buys acceptance” through art (something I’ve done all through my life), and that the actual, honest criticism might destroy the balance of the relationship. I’ve seen that happen from both sides - I’ve also been the one throwing temper tantrums at concrit going “WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE”, but I’ve also been the one giving it, and seen friends, or people I thought were friends, distanced by it. It’s a two-edged sword, so be careful with it.

See… There’s this thing. Who are you making your art for? Yourself, or someone else? (I’m assuming this is an amateur artist, not a professional, so I’ll deal with the assumptions it’s amateur.) I’ve been trapped years and years in a circle of “buying acceptance” from people around me by providing services, making art, putting in ridiculous effort in things that aren’t all that important, because that seemed to be the only way to get positive feedback from people. If you want criticism, but in the meantime fear you’re not ‘good enough’ for your friends anymore, honest criticism might kill your friendship.

Criticism, especially the way it’s implied here, will contain a person’s opinion, and possibly even valid information they’ve gathered through learning their subject more, reading, lessons, tutorials, whatnot. Ideally, it should not only contain information of what’s wrong, but also of what’s good, and HOW TO IMPROVE. But most often, people don’t adhere to ideals. They might put some things bluntly, or point out flaws they have no idea how you should fix. Maybe they say something that they don’t even consider important, but that tears apart your confidence, because it’s something you worked on for ages and then they think it isn’t very good? They might even not be giving the concrit because they don’t know what to say to you! But if you ask for it, you MUST be ready for it. And if they’re real friends, and give you the honest concrit, you have to be the friend back AND NOT BE OFFENDED if they actually do point out some big things to improve.

By and large, if how you feel about not getting the criticism is ‘you’re not good enough for someone’, it sounds like you might want to try to get the criticism elsewhere. If there are already negative feels in that relationship, the actual honest concrit might shatter the whole thing. Maybe your friends will excercise their eye for excruciating detail and say things that offend you? Will you be able to accept it for friendly advise, or will it be more proof of that you’re not good enough? I’ve seen people asking for criticism, but when it’s given, they flip and accuse the critic of anything between showing off and trying to make them feel bad. Think carefully before asking a friend for criticism, you need to have a VERY close and trusting relationship before you can actually do that without letting it eat away at your friendship.

I could say a few words about friendship here too, but maybe not. It’s long enough as it is. XDAlso my brain is turning fuzzy so I hope I didn’t make a mess of it. X)

“ Ideally, it should not only contain information of what’s wrong, but also of what’s good, and HOW TO IMPROVE. But most often, people don’t adhere to ideals. They might put some things bluntly, or point out flaws they have no idea how you should fix.” (Emphasis mine)

This right here is one of my biggest pet peeves regarding concrit. People just slap together a paragraph of “this looks wrong but idk exactly what it is or how to fix it you’re on your own sorry :D” and then get haughty if the recipient complains about it.

Example: Years ago I got some crits about a drawing that were essentially, “Looks good but could use more work.” Um, thanks? What about it needs work? Did I do anything right? But I got a different crit from someone else that said, “Looks good but the wing should be larger here in order to achieve lift, etc.” (Paraphrasing, of course.) Yes, good.

It just bugs me. People get upset over concrit that isn’t even good concrit and they are roasted for it.

This is really off-topic, sorry. D:

tl;dr I agree with your dissertation. :>

Well that’s the thing! It really bugs me that while some people waltz in giving “constructive criticism” IT’S NOT CONSTRUCTIVE if it contains no tips whatsoever on HOW TO IMPROVE, or at least point you in the right direction (“the hand looks a bit off, I’m sorry I don’t know what it is, but here’s a good tutorial”). It could, of course, be debated that if you are not asked for criticism, it might be a good idea to only say things you have something to say about. If you’re asked for criticism and see something funny but don’t know how to fix it, it’s okay to say so.

(And some people don’t even want to bother to give concrit and that’s more than okay. If you do, however, there are a lot of ways to make it more efficient and less like egoboosting, because that’s what it appears like if you don’t elaborate what you mean.)

“It could use some more work” is a phrase someone uses to appear more professional than the person they’re critiqueing, but in fact it just makes them look like idiots. And the best way to deal with such feedback is acid-dripping sarcasm. XD

(Source: artist-confessions)

hey-its-tsai:

Have you actually told them that you want concrit from them?
I’m pretty sure they aren’t mind readers.

Before you read this, please read my disclaimer first.
I&#8217;ve faced similar complaints before. There are several options here. 1. Your friends really do think your stuff is nice, or cute. 2.They think it&#8217;s nice, and cute, but also think there is room for improvement but don&#8217;t want to say anything in fear of offending you. Or then there&#8217;s the third option, which is that they think it&#8217;s horrible but don&#8217;t want to offend you. We could debate what makes a better friend, the one who honestly in your face tells you your new neon pink-lemon yellow shirt looks horrible in spite of possibly offending you, or the one who wants to let you enjoy your new shirt you clearly like even though they personally don&#8217;t like the colours. But that&#8217;s not the case here, I think.
What the case is, in fact, is&#8230; Why do you want your friends to concrit you? This &#8220;It&#8217;s making me feel like my art and myself aren&#8217;t good enough for them anymore&#8221;&#8230; Just the sentiment expressed here rings alarm bells for me. I could be wrong, of course. But for me, it sounds like someone who &#8220;buys acceptance&#8221; through art (something I&#8217;ve done all through my life), and that the actual, honest criticism might destroy the balance of the relationship. I&#8217;ve seen that happen from both sides - I&#8217;ve also been the one throwing temper tantrums at concrit going &#8220;WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE&#8221;, but I&#8217;ve also been the one giving it, and seen friends, or people I thought were friends, distanced by it. It&#8217;s a two-edged sword, so be careful with it.
See&#8230; There&#8217;s this thing. Who are you making your art for? Yourself, or someone else? (I&#8217;m assuming this is an amateur artist, not a professional, so I&#8217;ll deal with the assumptions it&#8217;s amateur.) I&#8217;ve been trapped years and years in a circle of &#8220;buying acceptance&#8221; from people around me by providing services, making art, putting in ridiculous effort in things that aren&#8217;t all that important, because that seemed to be the only way to get positive feedback from people. If you want criticism, but in the meantime fear you&#8217;re not &#8216;good enough&#8217; for your friends anymore, honest criticism might kill your friendship.
Criticism, especially the way it&#8217;s implied here, will contain a person&#8217;s opinion, and possibly even valid information they&#8217;ve gathered through learning their subject more, reading, lessons, tutorials, whatnot. Ideally, it should not only contain information of what&#8217;s wrong, but also of what&#8217;s good, and HOW TO IMPROVE. But most often, people don&#8217;t adhere to ideals. They might put some things bluntly, or point out flaws they have no idea how you should fix. Maybe they say something that they don&#8217;t even consider important, but that tears apart your confidence, because it&#8217;s something you worked on for ages and then they think it isn&#8217;t very good? They might even not be giving the concrit because they don&#8217;t know what to say to you! But if you ask for it, you MUST be ready for it. And if they&#8217;re real friends, and give you the honest concrit, you have to be the friend back AND NOT BE OFFENDED if they actually do point out some big things to improve.
By and large, if how you feel about not getting the criticism is &#8216;you&#8217;re not good enough for someone&#8217;, it sounds like you might want to try to get the criticism elsewhere. If there are already negative feels in that relationship, the actual honest concrit might shatter the whole thing. Maybe your friends will excercise their eye for excruciating detail and say things that offend you? Will you be able to accept it for friendly advise, or will it be more proof of that you&#8217;re not good enough? I&#8217;ve seen people asking for criticism, but when it&#8217;s given, they flip and accuse the critic of anything between showing off and trying to make them feel bad. Think carefully before asking a friend for criticism, you need to have a VERY close and trusting relationship before you can actually do that without letting it eat away at your friendship.
I could say a few words about friendship here too, but maybe not. It&#8217;s long enough as it is. XDAlso my brain is turning fuzzy so I hope I didn&#8217;t make a mess of it. X)

hey-its-tsai:

Have you actually told them that you want concrit from them?

I’m pretty sure they aren’t mind readers.

Before you read this, please read my disclaimer first.

I’ve faced similar complaints before. There are several options here. 1. Your friends really do think your stuff is nice, or cute. 2.They think it’s nice, and cute, but also think there is room for improvement but don’t want to say anything in fear of offending you. Or then there’s the third option, which is that they think it’s horrible but don’t want to offend you. We could debate what makes a better friend, the one who honestly in your face tells you your new neon pink-lemon yellow shirt looks horrible in spite of possibly offending you, or the one who wants to let you enjoy your new shirt you clearly like even though they personally don’t like the colours. But that’s not the case here, I think.

What the case is, in fact, is… Why do you want your friends to concrit you? This “It’s making me feel like my art and myself aren’t good enough for them anymore”… Just the sentiment expressed here rings alarm bells for me. I could be wrong, of course. But for me, it sounds like someone who “buys acceptance” through art (something I’ve done all through my life), and that the actual, honest criticism might destroy the balance of the relationship. I’ve seen that happen from both sides - I’ve also been the one throwing temper tantrums at concrit going “WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE”, but I’ve also been the one giving it, and seen friends, or people I thought were friends, distanced by it. It’s a two-edged sword, so be careful with it.

See… There’s this thing. Who are you making your art for? Yourself, or someone else? (I’m assuming this is an amateur artist, not a professional, so I’ll deal with the assumptions it’s amateur.) I’ve been trapped years and years in a circle of “buying acceptance” from people around me by providing services, making art, putting in ridiculous effort in things that aren’t all that important, because that seemed to be the only way to get positive feedback from people. If you want criticism, but in the meantime fear you’re not ‘good enough’ for your friends anymore, honest criticism might kill your friendship.

Criticism, especially the way it’s implied here, will contain a person’s opinion, and possibly even valid information they’ve gathered through learning their subject more, reading, lessons, tutorials, whatnot. Ideally, it should not only contain information of what’s wrong, but also of what’s good, and HOW TO IMPROVE. But most often, people don’t adhere to ideals. They might put some things bluntly, or point out flaws they have no idea how you should fix. Maybe they say something that they don’t even consider important, but that tears apart your confidence, because it’s something you worked on for ages and then they think it isn’t very good? They might even not be giving the concrit because they don’t know what to say to you! But if you ask for it, you MUST be ready for it. And if they’re real friends, and give you the honest concrit, you have to be the friend back AND NOT BE OFFENDED if they actually do point out some big things to improve.

By and large, if how you feel about not getting the criticism is ‘you’re not good enough for someone’, it sounds like you might want to try to get the criticism elsewhere. If there are already negative feels in that relationship, the actual honest concrit might shatter the whole thing. Maybe your friends will excercise their eye for excruciating detail and say things that offend you? Will you be able to accept it for friendly advise, or will it be more proof of that you’re not good enough? I’ve seen people asking for criticism, but when it’s given, they flip and accuse the critic of anything between showing off and trying to make them feel bad. Think carefully before asking a friend for criticism, you need to have a VERY close and trusting relationship before you can actually do that without letting it eat away at your friendship.

I could say a few words about friendship here too, but maybe not. It’s long enough as it is. XDAlso my brain is turning fuzzy so I hope I didn’t make a mess of it. X)

(Source: artist-confessions)

becauseedric:

wtffanfiction:

Fandom: Bible
“Mary Magdalene walked down the aisle at the temple of Jerusalem (like she Beyonce in that video of her in those sexy knickers.) The crowd stood on amazed; the disciples nearly fell over because she had fucking lush tits; besides Judas who looked to the floor uneasy, and Peter who sluttiness. Jesus got hard just looking at her and he couldn’t wait to see her vajayjay since he had wanked loads over her.”

Fandom: Bible

This is how I feel every time I see trashy Harry Potter fanfic. It just doesn&#8217;t work. XD

becauseedric:

wtffanfiction:

Fandom: Bible

“Mary Magdalene walked down the aisle at the temple of Jerusalem (like she Beyonce in that video of her in those sexy knickers.) The crowd stood on amazed; the disciples nearly fell over because she had fucking lush tits; besides Judas who looked to the floor uneasy, and Peter who sluttiness. Jesus got hard just looking at her and he couldn’t wait to see her vajayjay since he had wanked loads over her.”

Fandom: Bible

This is how I feel every time I see trashy Harry Potter fanfic. It just doesn’t work. XD

(Source: wtffanfiction, via invader-xim)